Please let's know when you are going to be in Camperdown. It would be great to have a chat.
No worries, it will be sometime between the 4th and 14th of November. I’ll bring some photos.
Yes!..I have many personal and fond memories of Talindert.
As ten pound poms, my family emigrated to Australia in 1956 and my Mum and Dads very first job was at this amazing place!... it was all arranged before we arrived by one of Dads mates!... Dad (Bob Halford) was to be the Butler and Mum ( Phyllis) the Cook. Dad was previously a London Bus driver, with absolutely no knowledge of being a Butler and Mum was always a great cook but was certainly not prepared for what this job involved!
I attended Talindert state school, which was a huge culture shock for me, going from a large English primary school to a country school with only 17 students!!!
There are many stories to tell but that would take a long time, probably enough to write a book but for now let’s just say it was straight out of “Upstairs Downstairs”
Let me know if you would like to hear more? We also have many photos.
I hope to visit Camperdown in early November.
Cheers, Keith Halford
I remember it being on the table under the staircase beside the telephone and remember Lady Manifold putting letters in there to be posted. Don’t know who emptied letters from there into the post bag.
I worked there but that must of been way before my time there.
Wow" being sold hey !
I can’t remember it at all....
A wonderful / tragic read. Not only have we bought the book , but have bought the junior version for all of our grandchildren.
Read this and remember....the conquerer writes the history! The vanquished disappear!
Wow! Fascinating to read this discussion.
It's important to realise that there are nuances in the reporting of all history. The importance of this book is its revealing of so much knowledge that was never known or talked about by the general public or taught in the schools.
I have read most of Mitchell, Oxley, Sturt, Eyre, and am now on Liechhardt and there is only one mention of anything that could be considered a field of grain, and Mitchell suggests that because of the poles situated in the stack it was for trapping birds in nets. Themeda is a notoriously difficult grass to grow, produces a small seed, and requires enormous effort to collect sufficient to produce any substantial sort of flour. Our early squatters thought it was a great feed for stock, and Niel Black used to worry his stock were getting too fat on it, and would have lower reproductive success as a consequence.
Sturt mentioned a well settled permanent village on the Cooper, and if you read the rest of Sturt's journal you will see there were almost no people outside this refuge. All the explorers found permanent style housing and shelter, some of substantial size, but most of it was used regularly but not permanently.
Pascoe I have heard talk on TED about the invention of agriculture in Australia, a subject which has interested me for many years. He seems unaware of the fact that agriculture was not invented once but multiple times. More than 14000 years ago in Papua, the people of which place are cousins of Australian Aborigines, and lived only a few sea miles north of Australia. Ag was also invented in China, the Indus valley, the Fertile Crescent-although they may have learnt from the Indus- Africa and north, south and central America. Pascoe also implies it is the men who did the work whereas the explorers are explicit that the men were fat and lazy, the kids well fed, and the women bore the brunt of labour and got the scraps. Inga Clendinnen in her book Dancing with Strangers, about the early settlement of Sydney, also has interesting things to say about the gendering of violence and food consumption.
Many years ago I participated in an archaeological exploration of the Lake Condah area. I was most impressed by the hydraulic skill of those who constructed the fish traps. Anthropology I in 1977 taught me that harnessing big water was a step into another stage of civilisation.